Temple Entry Discrimination Hindu-Phobia and Hindu-Hatred

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  • suyash95102 days ago | +0 points

    The purpose in Hinduism is to attain a higher, embodied states of consciousness that is an individual aspirant elevate his or her consciousness in the here-and-now and in his or her very body n merge it with the cosmic consciousness.

    The temple issue is complex , there are literally hundreds of thousands of temples from tiny room size to massive complexes. Some were open only to UC ,some to only SC and others to all, some only to certain communities excluding UC and so on. Making broad stroke claims isn't helpful.

    Hinduism is an exceptional religion which has its own protocols.Like Temples r of various type - 

    Village temples

    Kula devi/devata temples

    JAATI Temples

    Tantric Temples 

    Temples build for specific purpose ,

    Personal Temple for doing specific SAADHANA

    House Temple in Joint-Families

    Sampradaya Temples

    Temples belonging to Sects etc.

    In a Kula devi temple-only persons belonging to that particular Kula r allowed .This is not discrimination but the protocol n standard

    In a Village temple,only persons belonging to that village r allowed.

    In a Sampradaya temple,only persons n sects belonging to that Sampradaya r allowed n vice-versa

    Simialrly all issues of Temple Entry discrimination r propaganda ,nothing more

    We should note Temples r not necessary,One can have a simple Murti at his/her home n worship there

    Question - I am denied Entry into a Hindu Temple Response - What is the fault of Hinduism here,Contact local Hindu Group or you can build your own temple and become a priest - no questions asked today all prayogas (ritual manuals) with instructions are available from Giri Trading company, Chaukhamba, Gita Press Gorakhpur etc. In local languages with instructions. Before 10th Century AD, I would like u name a single incident where Temple Entry was denied to Dalits


  • suyash95102 days ago | +0 points

    This is Gross Generalization n plays into the hands of Hinduphobes directly,One must differentiate between common Hindu social practice and the core Hindu Philoosphy.What people do sometimes is very different and even contrary to what the Scriptures teach. Hinduism-as defined 

    by its orthodox scriptures consists of Highest n profound philosophies,wisest sages n periods of high civilization Hindus-everyday millions who are not all at the same level of culture n spirituality who follow Custom n Usage which has no religious sanction

    In Hinduism,temples are not essential places for people to pray - one can pray or meditate anywhere - even in bedroom sitting on bed. Going to the temple is not an essential feature of Hinduism .Temples are not important for Hindus at all.Every Hindu home has their own shrine

    or small temple so there is no need to use a Large Public temple unless one wants to have darshan of the God or attend a festival or meet people. In the olden days temples were like modern malls-there were markets, entertainment,food stalls etc.all within the temple compounds.

    So people went to temples for social reasons as well as religious.Before 1000 Ad,There is not a single incident where anybody was denied entry into temples ever. Restrictions on entry of any castes into temples was never a widespread phenomenon.If u further look at the basic

    DESIGN of most of the temples in India which does not allow much of public space for masses and thus restricts most of the population in the city or village in its premises .However, in all public events like Rath Yatra or any event where God or Goddess is taken around in a 

    religious procession,there is simply no historical evidence of any restrictions on basis of caste or Creed It could be possible that at those times too like now, there would have been some orthodox narrow minded - Who discriminated against few but such population was always

    minimal and their action was never in vogue.There are multiple hereditary priesthoods; some of them Brahmin (yes, there is no one “Brahmin priesthood”) others non-Brahmin.Priesthood was never an exclusively Brahmin domain - which has been spread today.

    The other thing is that temples built in the modern era, say after 19th c. (there are quite a few) already have a mixture of people from every castes on their trusts - generally consisting of sponsors/donors to the original establishment. The question arises only in case of

    Temples belonging to specific SAMPRADAYS .However,No particular caste demanded representation in temples managed by different castes (becoz each had their own shrines).yet ppl are being gaslit into a false sense of victimhood that they aren’t represented instead of considering

    that beneficiaries exist across caste lines.NON-BRAHMINS NOT ALLOWED INTO TEMPLE SANCTUM - Common PropagandaTruth - No one is allowed into the temple sanctum except the consecrate priests-Brahmins or non-brahmins whatsoever .The temple priests (archakas) undergo certain

    elaborate mandala dikshas after which they are permitted access to the sanctum.This is the case in some SAMPRADAY TemplesIn these Sampradays,Some temples are built according to Sthapatya Ved,Acc. to which The innermost center of a building is thought to be as if the hollow

    center of one’s spinal cord,the sushumna and to be kept pure and silent.Only a silent mind is allowed into such a sanctum filled with being. So only those people r allowed which are living their life like that.One or two temples are exceptions not the norm.

    There r 1000's of temples where there r no such restrictions. In majority of Temples,anyone can touch the deity and offer pooja by himself .There are two types of temples -First is Sampraday Temples known as ALAYA. Second n more common ones are called Dhuli Dharshana, meaning 

    they are created for anyone to touch them and have a relation with the deity on a physical level. Not all temples are exactly the same. Each temple is built for a different purpose. So knowing the significance via Sthalapurana of that temple will help what is the purpose of this

    instrument (temple). This is Hindu Exceptionalism, Hinduism has its own Working procedures unlike Other Religions which a person will have to understand

    Let us go into DETAILS -There are primarily 2 types of Temples - Alaya or Mandir Mandir -More than 90% Temples come under this category.Mandirs can be constructed anywhere-even a previously used building like a church or hall or house can be renovated and converted into a

    Mandir. The conditions and regulations for building a Mandir are very flexible and there is plenty of room for innovation and modification in selectingh ICONS n Location. (The Mandir is based on Purāṇas),They can be small or large and the mode of operation used here is BHAKTI

    ALAYA - It is a temple proper and is based on the Agamas. It needs to be built on unused land - usually outside of a town or city and preferably on a hilltop or near a water source - a river or a lake.The conditions and stages of preparation of the soil and the dimensions of 

    the building and orientation and timings of the various stages of construction and the rituals to accompany each and every stage are complex and are strictly regulated in every detail by the Agamas. In an Alaya the principle ICON (besides numerous other Icons) has 9 gems and a

    copper, silver or golden yantra placed in a cavity underneath it n also includes other costly MetalsALAYA is basically like a Machine where a person just has to go n sit for some time n will experience the results an ALAYA must conduct an annual Brahmotsava or Temple

    Festival for 10 days every year and numerous other very costly festivals during the annual cycle. A Mandir has no such compulsions - and can celebrate whichever festivals the committee desires in whatever mannerAnybody can become Preist in a Mandir but this is not the same in

    ALAYA . THE ROLE OF AGAMIC PREIST is very imp.In the āgamas (regarding Alayas) there is a sūtra which says:–bhagavad sānnidhyam arcakasya tapo-balāt — the presence of the deity is dependent upon the spiritual discipline and meditative powers of the attendant (learned &

    consecrated) priests. In order for the Deity to be present (sānnidhyam) it has to have the same representative three bodies which we have1. sthūla śarīra — gross physical body - sculptured form.2. sūkṣma śarīra — subtle body i.e.mental/emotional body - geometrical yantra 

    placed beneath it.3 kāraṇa śarīra — causal body i.e. ātman associated with its karma - the sacred and secret mūla-mantras which are used in the daily pūjā.If any of these elements is lacking then the sacrality of the temple (Alaya) is compromised.

    In order to become a priest of a “high-profile” AGAMIC temple one needs to study for 12 to 14 years in an Agama college and memorise entire texts and procedures. in most cases one needs to belong to a lineage associated with that particular temple (Chidambaram for example).

    In those days-the average life span was max 40-45 yearsIn Mandir ,There is no such requirementLet us also discuss TERMSBrahmin = one who is dedicated to the preservation of the Vedas and memorized them completely,knows all rituals.

    Arcaka = general term for one offers worship in an Agamic temple -MOSTLY r Brahmins but In many r non-Brahmins alsoPūjāri = one who does pūja - MOSTLY r Non- Brahmins but In many r Brahmins alsoThere r Tantric Temples also on which i hv no inform. So i hv kept them out

    The Theology Behind Temple Worship is - The God or Goddess to whom a person is attached n is a devotee will grant him/her Moksha after death.So,we see complexity regarding the different types of Temples n different Roles of Preists in them.PRESENT SCENARIO - ANYBODY can make 

    his own Temple(Alaya or Mandir) and become a Preist, No Questions asked.Previously all prayogas (ritual manuals) were in Sanskrit with no instructions, and in order to study the rituals one had to take an apprenticeship under a Purohit or domestic priest. Nowadays all the

    ritual manuals are available both Online/Offline .Hindu Holy Books are all available in every book shop, on line and free from Hindu websites for download - in almost every language - so if a person can read they have access.There r Hundreds of Institutions which give all

    proper Training in becoming a Preist(alaya or Manidr) .So,we see all this hulla-bulla over Temple discrimination is simply a propaganda ,nothing more

    Due to "coloniality" (a term popularized by @jsaideepak

    ji in the discourse), we assume the Hindu priesthood to be line of European-Christain priesthood. In our society every community ran its own temples with its own priests. Grama devta temples run by non-Brahmin priests.Most Amman (Devi) temples in Tamil Nadu are run by non-Brahmin priests. But doesn't mean they are only for non-Brahmins. Even Brahmins of that region where the temple is would have her as their kula devta. What we need is not "reform" but #decoloniality.


  • suyash95102 days ago | +0 points

    In Bramha Purana ,it is written that Chandalas worshipped Lord Vishnu in temple and also visited many sacred pilgrimages.On the outskirts of the city named Avanti lived a Chandala. At night he would go to Vishnu’s temple and sing praises of Vishnu. He never failed to observe

    this ritual...The Chandala went to the temple. He worshipped Vishnu and spent the night in singing Vishnu’s praises..I can conclude that there was no discrimination.Acc to Agama it is forbidden to practice any form of untouchability in a temple or during festivals. Everyone is

    allowed to enter a temple and to attend the temple festivals acc to Shiava Agamas however. No one can enter the sanctum of an Agama temple except the consecrated priests. Smṛtyārthasāra speaks of untouchables entering temples. Nirnaya-sindhu quotes a passage of the Devī-

    Purāṇa that expressly authorizes antyajas to establish a temple of Bhairava. According to Vaishnava Puranas and Agamas, its forbidden to practice untouchability against devotees irrespective of Caste.There are no distinctions among such pure devotees in terms of social class,education, bodily beauty, family status, wealth, occupation, and so on. (Narada Bhakti Sutra 72)Yogis are born among all castes; and no caste-odium shall hold in their cases, for they have seen their souls. (Bharadvaja-Samhita,1.44)

    .Like this there r 100's of refererences


  • suyash9575 days ago | +0 points

    Hereditary priesthood in the Scheduled Tribes of IndiaThe post of Priest in the following scheduled tribes is hereditary:Kondadora, Oraon, Parhaiya, Malhar, Jatapu, Ho, Kutia Kandha, Dongaria Kandha, Juanga, Lanjia Saora, Kharia, Paudi Bhuyan etc.

    Sources:1. https://tribal.nic.in/repository/Document.aspx,

    2. 'The Scheduled Tribes of India' by G. S. Ghurye,

    3. 'Encyclopaedia of Scheduled Tribes in Jharkhand' by Diwakar Minz and Delo Mai Hansda.


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