Criticism of Buddhism हिंदू धर्म और बौद्ध धर्म

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  • suyash951310 days ago | +0 points

    Buddhist monasteries were full of nashedi intoxicated Buddhist monks. Wine production in ancient India was a business over which Buddhist monks held monopoly. https://jstor.org/stable/24049424?seq=1

     

    During excavations in Swat, Archaeologists found wine making distilleries inside Buddhist monasteries. Buddhist monks loved to indulge in wine revelries https://jstor.org/stable/24049424

     

    During ASI Nagarjunakonda excavations , mint machine was found in monasteries. In Satavahana state, no one except king had the right to mint coins. The archaeologist Longhurst concluded that Buddhist monks "made their own coins". In other words, they indulged in counterfeit

     

    There is no evidence that Brahmins of Buddha's time were more lustful voracious wife-sellers than other communities (I would like to see if such evidence exists), but it can be said that Buddhist monks themselves indulged in wine making, intoxication and fraud counterfeiting.

     

     

    INVENTIONS OF BUDDHISTS -

     

    A Sculpture from Buddhist center of Nagarjunakonda proudly displays devout Buddhist Ikshavaku king Virapurishadatta trampling a Shiva Linga with his feet (c.3rd century AD)

     

     

     

     

    Buddhists later invented a deity named Vignantaka( such a deity does not exist in early Pali canon). This deity Vignantaka is ALWAYS shown trampling Hindu god Ganesha with his feet

     

     

    In their scriptures, Buddhists also circulated stories of a Boddhisttva named Vajrapani kiIIing Hindu God Shiva. Shiva is described as a very malevolent being. He deludes people with his malevolent Shiva Bhakti

     

    Bodhisattva Vajrapani orders Shiva to accept Buddhism. Shiva does not comply. A battle ensues. Shiva loses the fight. Both Shiva and durga fall at the feet of Bodhisattva Vajrapani. Yet, Shiva is eventually kiIIed by this Bodhisattva

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    The Buddhists also invented a deity called Trailokyavijaya (He is absent in early Buddhist texts). This Buddhist deity kiIIs Shiva. He stands on Shiva's decapitated head and tramples Goddess Parvati's breasts with his feet

     

     

     

    All the sources are late. But as general rule though, Pali sources are much older than later medieval Tantric/Vajrayana sources which have incorporated homa rituals

     

    According to these Vajrayana Buddhist sources, "Buddhahood" could be attained by making pills from bodily flesh of Brahmins and consuming them. They put all these words in the mouth of Buddha and Bodhisattvas Source: Power Objects in Tibetan Buddhism

     

    If you believe that these texts are just rhetoric and were not actual in practice, think again. Buddhist Vajrayana ritual objects with Human bodily remains have been found by Archaeologists. http://chinabuddhismencyclopedia.com/en/index.php/Tantric_Ritual_Objects_Formed_Of_Human_Bones

     

     

    This practise of Human Sacrifice by Vajrayana cultists of Tibet continued well into the 20th century. Young children were sacrificed and buried under stupas

     

     

    What actually happened?

    In the beginning, Buddhists opposed Vedic rituals. But when rituals became popular, later Medieval Buddhist cults like Vajrayanists appropriated the homa/fire ritual. And they put these fire rituals into the mouth of a mythical Buddha named Vairochana

     

    This Brings us back to -

    The story of 84000 stupas doesnot make sense ,Why will Kings fund a project which has no value in running their Kingdom , The Hindu Yajnas n Festivals created prosperity n showed a King's might .

    Today's Western Buddhist Scholarship are making claims that Revival of Brahminical Hinduism led to decline in Buddhism ,Well Buddhism was always in decline , Why will Kings and Common Public fund Stupas where a Monk wants to Meditate ,what has that got to do with their Life  ,

    On the other hand Rituals n Yajnas created prosperity and gave something tangible ,

    There was always an option of taking Sanyasa in Hinduism

     

     One might argue that the Buddhists scriptures are late and might not reflect the actual words spoken by Buddha.

     

    REGARDING ANIMAL SACRIFICES -

     

    Buddhist Sutta Nipāta [1][2]. In chapter 2 “Cūḷavagga”, section 7 “Brāhmaṇa-dhammika-sutta”,

     Buddha describes the lifestyle of the “ancient Brāhmaṇas” who were more pious and spiritually dedicated than those of his time. In the course of his lecture he says:

     “Seers, before, were austere & restrained in mind. Abandoning the five strings of sensuality, they practiced for their own benefit. They had no cattle, no gold, no wealth. They had study as their wealth. They protected the Brahmā treasure. ……. They asked for rice, bedding, cloth, butter & oil. Having collected all that in line with rectitude, from that they performed the sacrifice. And in setting up the sacrifice, they didn’t harm cows. “Like a mother, father, brother, or other relative, cows are our foremost friends. From them comes medicine. They give food, strength, beauty, & happiness.” Knowing this line of reasoning, they didn’t harm cows.”

     

    Now, this is probably a unilateral depiction of the situation in Buddha’s time, showing Brāhmaṇas as greedy and wanton, and coming to Buddha for advice on how ancient Brāhmaṇas behaved as if they had completely lost their connection with their own tradition. I haven’t come across independent evidence from non-Buddhist sources of the same time period to back this up. We wouldn’t be remiss in assuming that Buddha may have been exaggerating the apparent deterioration of Brāhmaṇas in his own time, as his motive was to wean away Vedic practitioners into his own fold.

    However, there is certainly truth in his statements about “ancient Brāhmaṇas” treating cows with love and affection, as seen clearly in the Cow Hymn. So, we can confidently deduce that animal sacrifice was a relatively newer development not practiced in the most ancient Vedic period. the central question is whether there was any recognition of non-violence in ancient Vedic texts, and hence prescription of alternatives to animal sacrifice. The texts that specialized in prescriptions of rituals are the Brāhmaṇas and Āraṇyakas.

     Two important points to note about these texts are: They prescribed rituals for the general population of Vedic times, who were from all walks of life and with various levels of spiritual awakening.

    As in any society, the enlightened people (rishis) only made up a small percentage of the population. Hence these texts have a variety of different rituals to cater to the religious needs of many different types of people, including those who feel obligated to sacrifice animals.

    They represent the second period of Vedic culture. This is evidenced by the fact that these texts quote the Samhitā mantras to be recited for each ritual. Hence the Samhitā must have existed prior to the composition of these texts.

     

    The Hindu Rishis wrote treatises on a vast number of subjects with such insights that the ages have been powerless to outmode them yet to the subsequent consternation of historians ,the sages made no efforts to attach their own dates and stamp of personality to their literary works , They knew their brief life spans were only temporarily important as flashes of great infinite life and that truth is timeless ,impossible to trademark n no private possession of their own .

    Many People attained Atma-Bodha n became Siddha in their lifetime but they didnot start a Organized system becoz they wanted people to explore n seek on their own unlike Buddha who created a cult.

    The reason why Buddhist works dominate in Gandhara is because of archaeological reasons. Almost all excavations of sites from 2-8th century CE have been of only Buddhist centers. Not of cities. Hence, there is a skewed dominance of Buddhist Art. City excavations are needed.

     

     

     

     

    BUDDHISM VOILENCE

     

    When Tibetan empire became Vajrayana Buddhist, they rather allied with the Umayyad caliphate from the early 8th century for their immense greed of power in India + sheer hatred of Hinduism. "Yang Liangyao’s Mission of 785 to the Caliph of Baghdād" - Angela Schottenhammer

     

    Mahayana Buddhist of the Qing dynasty slaughtered the Vajrayana Buddhist Oirat Mongols mercilessly as they rather favored Sunni Muslims and their own brethren to populate Dzungaria.

     

    Tibetan Vajrayana Buddhists used to cremate Brahmins and consume their ashes to attain moksha, as they (Brahmins) were believed to be a 'higher being.' "Power Objects in Tibetan Buddhism" - James Duncan Gentry.

     

    Vajrayana Buddhist Lamas desecrated Tengrist shrines, killed Shamanists, other polytheists of Siberia and China. Hence most Mongols and Tuvans are Buddhists today, under sword. "A Mongolian Source to the Lamaist Suppression of Shamanism in the 17 th Century - Walther Heissig"

     

    Theravada Buddhists in Sindh had relatively good faith/parity with Hindus but greed and lust for power is what got them. The Hindu Monarchy was ruthlessly backstabbed with Buddhist Corps as they allied with the Muslim invaders from modern day Turkey. The Sangha soon fell. Sindhi Theravada Buddhists were breaking Mahayana Buddhist idols in Bihar/Jharkhand as Sindh fell to Islam.

     

    sOURCE - "Arab Invasion of India" - R C Majumdar

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  • suyash951310 days ago | +0 points

    Buddhists persecuted Hindus. If you read the Mahāvaṁśa chronicles of Srilanka there are some horrific accounts of massacres and destruction of temples and shrines. Not only of Hindus but also of rival Buddhist sects.

    Just north of you is Tibet - have you heard about their persecution of the Bonpos? Do you know about their cruel and oppressive caste system?

     chat about the horrific wars between the Buddhists themselves - the Burmese and the Cambodians -and the destruction of each others monasteries and temples.

     

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  • suyash951143 days ago | +0 points

    #Buddhism is called superior to the 'doctrine of theft' (चोरशास्त्र), for Buddha snitched ideas from the Upanishads and Mahabharata right under the nose of Brahmins. — Mattavilasa, a 7th century Sanskrit-Prakrit humorous play attributed to Pallava king Mahendra-varman

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    Kapali is unable to find his bowl but he figures out who could have taken it. It's a satire on the Buddhist monks and their particular love for meat and fish.

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    reading Āgamaḍambara by Jayanta Bhatta. You will find it interesting

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  • suyash951138 days ago | +0 points

    Buddhism’s centralization into an elite urban religion centered on monasteries was probably a major cause of decline come the Islamic invasions as the monasteries that housed the Sangha were destroyed.Hinduism OTOH for whatever reason kept the decentralized ascetic ethos.

    People offer caste as a reason that Hinduism survived but Buddhism did not. Issue is, Indian Buddhists observed caste as well. From Brahminhood to untouchability, the full spectrum is observed by Chinese pilgrims in Buddhist kingdoms & villages. So not a differentiator.


    Ironically, Hindu “sramanas” - wandering ascetics, Brahmins who upheld Vedic lore, & local village sects framed a decentralized network of Hindu Dharma that was more antifragile than the centralized Buddhist Sangha that became more tied to royal patronage & urbanity.

    I’ve mentioned Lakshmification before - how religious sites become economic centers.Monasteries naturally thrive in urban or centralized areas as there are more opportunities not just for bhiksha, but also to build an institution to capitalize on mass bhiksha.

    These monasteries would become powerful institutions as education, cultural transmission, intellectualism, & religious rite thrived here.Think of Nalanda & other monastery-universities in Bihar or Kanishka hosting a grand Buddhist Council in Gandhara. Urbanism was integral.

    In some Buddhist lands, monasteries & centralized monk orders would become powerful parallel political forces to the State & royalty. The heterodox Ari monks of Myanmar are a great example of this. So far as to even militarize to hold ransom the kingdom.

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  • suyash951138 days ago | +0 points

    This was the Song Dynasty philosopher’s (Zhu Xi, et al) central criticism of Buddhism: it was a way to hide from society’s problems, from reality, to selfishly seek personal enlightenment.So many people in America are into “mindfulness,” new age stuff, and drugs. It’s a way to escape their horrible world; the same as Chinese wanted to escape after Han Dynasty (when 50% of the population died).But hiding in the shadows perpetuates the dark situation.The Confucian way, which countered the Buddhists, is to engage with the world.That’s why they step outside: do rituals in public and seek positions in government.Confucian enlightenment is difficult for Americans to get, because it’s not woo-woo: it’s pragmatic real-world.It’s not about the “me me” self, and one’s spiritual feeling—that’s individualism.It’s about society, and thereby, with the improvement of the societal situation, the many individual lives also become improved.It’s quite realistic, logical, with concrete actionable paths

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  • suyash951137 days ago | +0 points

    Some Vishishtadvaitin scholars prescribe hell for Advaitins as they believe in a formless god. Vaishnav scholars have railed against the “tamasik” practices of Shaktas as utterly demonic.I don’t take scholarly barbs seriously when describing society as it functions.

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  • suyash951133 days ago | +0 points

    All the court rituals and protocols were/are Hindu and are managed by the Royal Brahmins because Buddhism is/was a religion of renunciation and has nothing to do with politics hence there are no Buddhist court, public or private rituals - no coronation ceremonies, no marriage, birth, naming or funeral ceremonies - all these were/are done according to Brahminical traditions.

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  • suyash951128 days ago | +0 points

    Buddhism was also persecuted n destroyed in Japan,Korea,China etc

    Haibutsu kishaku , type this term on google or wiki,What the Japanese did was - Buddhist monks were forced to return to laity,All Buddhist property was confiscated,Buddhist institutions were closed,Buddhist schools were reorganized under state control in order to separate Shinto from Buddhism.Widespread destruction of Buddhist temples, images and texts took place. It is estimated that 40,000 Buddhist temples were destroyed in Japan during this disastrous nationwide anti-Buddhist mayhem,

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  • suyash951127 days ago | +0 points

    According to the Pew Research Center, seven countries have a majority Buddhist population. But Buddhists in Asia are historically also polytheists, and many indigenous polytheisms survive in a symbiosis with Buddhism, a fact too often devalued and erased by Western Buddhists.

    Buddhism, today and historically, has always been practised alongside existing beliefs of locals. The local Greeks worshipped Buddha and Greek Gods, In Zoroastrian areas, there was the Buddha Mazda, In the subcontinent, Buddhism was practised along with Hinduism and Jainism

    Westerners adopting Eastern religions do it with the baggage of a lapsed monotheist. Walking away from the Church doesn’t erase the worldview embedded within their local culture and psyche.

    Surveys show that some 80% of people in China practice some kind of Chinese "folk religion", that is, indigenous Chinese polytheism, and some believe that this number is even growing. Yet under the CCP, Chinese polytheism is tightly controlled and has only limited recognition.

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  • suyash951023 days ago | +0 points

    Dalai Lama is a demonTibet was a brutal and corrupt theocracy where 95% of the population were slaves or serfs. The 5% elite were monks, landlords and aristocrats. Their law said a monk or landlord was worth his weight in gold, whilst a woman, craftsman or peasant was worth their weight in straw. Chopping off legs and arms was a common punishment for slaves. A common punishment for women was forcing them to carry a heavy wooden board around their neck for weeks on end. Slaves would also be constantly chained up, whether they were working in fields or locked up in rooms

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    Human sacrifice was also common under the old regime. First image shows a letter where the 13th Dalai Lama needs human intestines, skins, skulls and blood to celebrate his birthday. Third and fourth pics shows the dried up skins of children and adults that were ordered by serf-owners

    The newly liberated people were then given land and exempt from taxationFirst pic shows a 76 yr old woman being told she’s been freed and given land, she had been a slave all her life prior to this. Second pic shows newly freed people burning their slave debts and leases from their former monk and landlord owners. Before this, slaves never owned any of harvests they produced.

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    Today in modern day Tibet, no Tibetan wants to return to the old government. The old man in the first pic used to be a slave when he was a boy. The woman in the second pic is also a former slave who saw her brother being stoned to death after he was accused of aiding the advancing Communist forces

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    Slave women also had to pay a heavy tax on any children they gave birth to, the baby would also registered with her slave owner, meaning her children would also grow up to be slaves as well.Image showing an enslaved woman having her baby signed away to the slave owner

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    Slaves also had to constantly work under brutal conditions and meet quotas no matter what illnesses or injuries the slave had.When they weren’t working, they lived in squalor, a lot of them lived underneath toilets (image 2) or near cesspits.

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    This despotic feudal system only ended when Communist Party Chairman Mao had enough and ordered the People’s Liberation Army to invade Lhasa, the Tibetan capital.

    Negotiations began with the religious monks. The main requirement was that they had to give up slavery. Image shows Chinese and Tibetan officials meeting before a banquet

    Some of the newly freed Tibetans started to complain that Mao was being too gentle, as he still allowed the former slave-owner monks to maintain their religious authority and influence over their local areas.

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  • suyash951023 days ago | +0 points

    This practice of burying children alive under Stupas took place until 1959.And no, this is not communist propaganda. Many European travelers witnessed such practices live.

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  • suyash951021 days ago | +0 points

    Bauddha-s not only contaminated H society by providing a forum for all sorts of reprobates but also contaminated the history through their competition with jainas at mauryan courts. every bauddha scholar is a former brahmana learned in vedas and vedanga-- when /1


    in fact they would have been from a variety of classes, including v1. so many bauddhas have strange births, right from sakamuni himself. asanga vasubandhu unique half brothers one had v2 father and latter v1! not to mention the moriya clan itself. c'gupta is either v2/2


    or peacock tamer or sudra related to nandas. bindusara is born in strange cut belly open style while ashokas mother is supposedly a v1 who becomes an expert barber lol. then once v3 become ascendant in Sangha, ashokas wife becomes a v3 from vidisha/3


    also the moriya clan though there are scattered references, is always overthrown in places--in sindh by dahir, in mevad by bappa rawal and in Maharashtra by shivaji. this suggests that moriyas were in a limbo status and not considered real v2 way later too,for their supplanters/4


    faced little or no rebellion. similarly lot of H scholars with different origins might have been written out as "vedic" v1 such as aryabhata (who i think was a v2, from nagbhata etc). this jati confusion and fakery of bauddha writers is why H history is probably screwed up/5


    what more, almost everyone implicitly trusts bauddha sources, especially mlecchas, liberals and ms, to show a middle finger to classical H. bauddha works must be seen as competitive propaganda and begging pamphlets mire than any real account. yes, some of B work on logic n /6


    philosophy is solid, but even there many are sourced from shaiva or vedic schools with no attribution


    recent interactions with pro bauddha folks made me look up bauddha accounts in that most murky of periods the mauryan empire. where all sorts of fanciful claims are made from almost nil evidence, most to run down H

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  • suyash951021 days ago | +0 points

    Many ambedkarites attribute the fall of Buddhism to Brahmanism(Hinduism) but that's nothing but a lie. The fall of Buddhism is due to Buddhists themselves and this whole garb of Buddhism being ideal is false.


    First Reason : The religion that was far from idealGotra and Varna were predominant in Buddhism, well they never went away. Bhikkhus would fight amongst each other over varna and gotra


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    People were identified based on kula/gotra, there was a clear difference between different kulas(Hindus identified with varnas but Buddhists went one up and even had classifications amongst kulas)This classification caused a major churn out of Buddhism to Hinduism

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    The Second Reason: IslamEven Ambedkar agrees the religion that killed Buddhism was Islam but not Hinduism.


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    But who were the traitors who bought Jihadists, it was Buddhists themselves, karma just hit them back. Here is one example where Raja Dahir was betrayed by Buddhist Samani

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    Bhandarkan Samani was a turncoat and Coward who sought the mercy of Al Hajjaj

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    He gave provisions to Kasim

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    Many Buddhists gave shelter to invaders which is a raja droha and betrayed Hindu Kings, hence the backlash of Hindu kings on Buddhist betrayers

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    This betrayal and hatred towards Hindus still exists, All India Bhikkus were enraged when they learnt Arun Govil(who played Sri Rama) was playing the role of Buddha and wrote a letter to then PM PV Narsimha Rao(that Sri Rama is fictional). They are no better than Jihadists

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    Third: The Complete destruction of Buddhism which was due to monks indulging in sexual pleasures/drinking and creating aversion amongst people, It was so prevalent that Buddhist stupas were called: Lanja Dibbalu:( "Whore" mounds because of hedonistic/sexual acts of monks).

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